What do you suppose nature and art is?

Ethan   April 17, 2007, 09:18 PM

It's wide and nice for this photogroup but what does it mean to you, what are you trying to add to the group when you're looking to find a suitable photo? For me, this group is about finding photos that are organic and calming. You?

larsipulami   April 17, 2007, 09:47 PM

Nature is the easy part. Anything not man-made could be taken a picture of.

Art - in my opinion - is much more complicated. It is a complex communication using distinguished pieces of work. To be called Art, there has to be some "spark" that makes a piece of work into something that is... more.

Difficult topic. Really.

roke   April 18, 2007, 12:00 PM

So, if nature is non-man-made, but art obviously is; do we have a contradiction here?

Or is art to take a picture of nature and bringing in the "spark" in this way?

Hmm. Not easy.

larsipulami   April 18, 2007, 12:23 PM

If you say it this way, yes, we have a contradiction. But that's more an advantage for this group for showing/creating contradictions is art, in a certain way. Nature itself is, hopefully without contradictions, which emphasizes the contradiction in the groups name even more.

On the other hand, isn't it natural for us to be interested in contradictions, to solve nature's seeming contradictions.

Stating it this way we could put almost everything into the title.

Thus, to avoid being completely without meaning as a result of an all quantifier in the title we could reduce ourselve to pictures where somebody took something natural and made it, by way of his camera skills, into something art. By understanding "nature" as the things that are there without humans having build them, we get a nice field to work at.

larsipulami   April 18, 2007, 12:25 PM

@Ethan: I wouldn't deem "calming" a necessary attribute of all pictures that are "nature" and "art". Not even "organic". Or do you think a rock in itself is not "nature"?

Ethan   April 18, 2007, 10:24 PM

The way I see it is that when you combine the Nature and Art those two are the attributes of nature and art that appear to cross over. And the tone of the pictures people bring to this group.

I think the contradiction we see in combining the two is perhaps our romantic view of nature as it becomes less of a part of our lives, we express it as an inherently artistic force, we all know the idea of 'Mother Nature' and possibly still believe it to some extent, as can be seen in the marketing power of the word 'natural' today.

So perhaps this isn't about nature, or art, but a manifestation of what we believe to be a good and ideal lifestyle, or a rich and wholesome world.

roke   April 19, 2007, 01:09 PM

Full ACK.

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