coming out of the cameraphone paradigm, this is my first "heavy" photo gear


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frolund August 07, 2008, 05:13 PM
A lot of fun coming up:-)
Euzkerika Orozco August 07, 2008, 05:29 PM
Nice toy!!!! :D

Congrats!! (:

dhania August 07, 2008, 08:21 PM
gratz
Jean-Pierre Avakian August 07, 2008, 09:36 PM
This is really my next toy.
Guan Yang Team 23 August 08, 2008, 01:04 AM
Drop the fugly hood. Modern lenses don't need it.
Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Team 23 August 08, 2008, 05:31 AM
@guan. i know, i put it on for the looks, but it has all ready started to irritate me...
trafal August 08, 2008, 10:11 PM
you get one of those, just as i am having all sorts of fun with 2 Meg phonecams. nikon is always a good choice in my own book.
Th Clvr Mnky August 09, 2008, 01:48 AM
The hood does make it sit nice on a flat surface. Pretty much its only purpose now, as Guan has pointed out.

D80?

Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Team 23 August 09, 2008, 07:35 AM
@clvrmnky. yeah the 18-135 lens i bought it with makes it tip over if it doesn't have the hood on. D80 it is, got it pretty cheap since it's likely a new model will come out in a few months - but i couldn't wait any longer...
Th Clvr Mnky August 09, 2008, 09:02 AM
Nice. I actually held a D700 in my hands recently. Our local Nikon dealer let me take a few shots. In some ways you could wait for the Next Big Thing forever -- they will always release improved and advanced models. The fact is the D80 continues to be a fine piece of semi-pro equipment.

That lens is decent performing lens for the price. You are going to love your choice of Nikon glass, too. If you get a chance to shoot portraits with a 50mm or longer prime (you will have to step waaaaaaay back, though!) you will really see some nice results with the D80.

But even this zoom pulled out to 50-75mm is great for portraits -- decent bokeh and sharpness, especially stopped down a little. It is a great take-anywhere lens for travelling, too. I've been to Europe and Africa recently, and now I only bring a 50mm prime and the 18-200MM VR. And I hardly use the 50!

dhania August 09, 2008, 12:35 PM
I'd love a d700 (or D3 for what it's worth) but I can't afford it...
Th Clvr Mnky August 09, 2008, 02:34 PM
@dhania - Yeah, it's pricey all right. The D80 (and D60...) is at a decent semi-pro price-point, but I'm reserving the D700 for when if I eve have to declare income from photography on my taxes!

The nice part is that I'm building a nice collection of compatible lenses (mostly used) that I can use when I upgrade the Nikon body. This is the real attraction for me for a DSLR: you can upgrade the body as your desires, talents and pocketbook allow!

Now, I've just seen the specs for the Coolpix P6000, which is looking like a very nice unit for a second camera, or budget-minded shooter looking to give Nikon a try.

Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Team 23 August 13, 2008, 07:11 AM
yeah, the d700 looks great, but is also gonna carry a price tag 2-2,5x an d80.

good point on the lenses - everyone tells me that's the part you should be fearful about getting geeky about since it's a passion at a high cost ;)

dhania August 13, 2008, 08:53 AM
Thomas: yeah while the body may _look_ pricey, once you have bought some glass to go with it things get worse :D
MickPt August 13, 2008, 10:00 AM
@clvrmnky: if you're looking for backward lens compatibility you should have gone for Pentax but maybe that's why used Pentax lenses are not so easy to find. I still use my 25 years old 50 mm on my K10D with great results (and with shake reduction fully functional). Upgrading bodies on the Canikon world is not a straightforward process. You will probably loose some lenses or some camera body functions on the way.
Th Clvr Mnky August 13, 2008, 01:14 PM
@MickPt: I considered a Pentax DSLR, but the fantastic glass Nikon makes just won out. I liked that some of the Pentax design choices, like the dust-off sensor and sealed body openings. And, of course, I love my old K1000, so I have a soft-spot of the marque.

But, As far as I am concerned, Nikkor is the pinnacle of optics in the price range I can consider.

While the support matrix of Nikon bodies and lenses is not exactly user-friendly, a fair amount of old lenses will still work with the D80 -- certainly enough for me.

I don't expect to own that many lenses, actually (I have about 5, and only have 1-2 more on my real wishlist, and none of those are must-haves) so I'm not worried about 25 years from now. Camera tech just gets better all the time, and a lot of vintage stuff is a little hyper-inflated in price anyway. For me, a new Nikon with the fantastic new lenses they make do so much that I'm finding a single zoom replaces a bagful of heavy glass.

Of course, companies like Leica and Pentax have made it a priority to maintain backwards compatibility, so for those who need to know their kit will work in 25 years, this is important. Though, even Leica has found it a challenge to innovate while still maintaining compatibility. Pentax has had to make some compromises of their own.

Honestly, everything is a compromise, so I figure I'll let all this stuff come out in the wash.

Th Clvr Mnky August 13, 2008, 01:25 PM
@Thomas - the D700 was a surprise. I expected little difference between it and the semi-pro stuff I'm used to. It was much lighter, and the controls more precise. The viewfinder was much brighter (I was trying out a FX lens, which is larger than the DX format) and everything about it was faster. It focused so quickly and quietly I though there was something wrong at first.

This is all part of the diminishing returns one gets on expensive equipment. Like audio equipment and sports cars, the more you pay the more you get only perceived improvements rather than real improvements. But the D700 is definitely a piece of real pro equipment.

Since I'm at a place where the most important equipment I can improve is my shooting and post-processing ability (which is essentially free) any of the semi-pro stuff from the usual suspects is more camera than I really need.

Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Team 23 August 13, 2008, 09:36 PM
@clvrmnky. good point, i'm only getting started on the more aware shooting compared to the more gonzo camera phone style (all though many similarities). post-processing i'm first getting started on since it's a big no-no in the cameraphone ethic.
Th Clvr Mnky August 15, 2008, 09:42 PM
I still want to get into the Lomo/Cheapo photo thing. I really like the immediacy of it. I don't mind a little creative post-processing, though, even for that kind of photography.

But I can see the point of the no-processing zeitgeist.

Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Team 23 August 16, 2008, 06:42 AM
@clvrmnky. in the cam phone ethic it's all about minimizing the "taken date" and "uploaded date"...
dhania August 16, 2008, 05:46 PM
damn I still have film in my lomo... thanks for reminding me, gotta take it on my sunday trip
Nikolaj Nyholm September 17, 2008, 08:46 AM
@mygdal, you definitely got me hooked on getting a 'real' camera last sunday. where did you buy yours?

/n

ps. the D700 is almost 4x the price of the D80 on Amazon...

Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Team 23 September 17, 2008, 09:18 AM
bought it from kamerahuset, https://webshop.kamerahuset.dk/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1457?osCsid=dc0b82ae48d16d375d9e857ebb57060a

the d90 is coming out very shortly - and as always this type of gear is substantially cheaper in the us.

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