What sucks is that all these dsk kids battling AF forces AF to stoop lower, and battle these toys with quick throw-ups that would normally be below AF standards. regardless the AF stuff up there murders DSK and UK but it still aint as dope as it would be if this AF member was writing somewhere else without having to worry about young kids with swollen self-perceptions trying to battle them. and the DSK kids could be at home perfecting their craft, in hopes to someday be as dope or maybe even better than some AF members. They should put in some time before waging war on such a well-respected local crew. The whole fiasco is just not good for anyone involved and those who see it everyday in Honolulu. This is just an exterior observation, an opinion that doesn't matter. Just what one observer sees happening..
man I saw this couple of weeks ago all clean and shit. @ first, I thought it was clit, cuz the "a" was being blocked but later saw it at a distance and saw the AF.
I know Tumy and Booger aka Peter aka B4. they both dope. no bragging intended though.
akur is junk.. he can scrap... lol this isnt UFC. i also think everbody bites someone.. no such thing as original anymore. just a playoff of something thats already been established. and the DSK/UK kids have too much hate in their hearts. they should go to church and while in there, practice drawing on the offering envelopes.... PROGRESSION ON PAPER. my eyes hurt.
all u guy hating on akur why dont u get off the computer go burn some thing he did and post the pic then u can brag but all u do is sit at your computer and hate and people
^^ to much hate in there hearts? haha AF is the ones who think there the kings of everyone so they think have the right to diss/ shit talk who ever they want. UK TE DSK is giving there dumb asses a wake up call.
TE used to b the shits yo i miss JRUNC COLOUR and DICA back wen the used to crush shit. and ATAK damn hes just too good yo. AREO and RISE to man they got sum dope shit and all of old UK mang. those crews r da shit, got sum talent man, AF is lettin all these new cats in that basically suck at graff, but AF gots way more ups. im drunk shOOTZ
AF HAS BEEN PUTTING UP AF FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE EARNED THEIR SPOT IN THIS CULTURE. AND ITS STUPID HOW SALTY THESE NEW KIDS GET WHEN THEY DONT WANT TO MEET EM OR BE THEIR FRIENDS ON MYSPACE. THEN KIDS TELL KIDS TO HATE AF CAUSE "THEY'RE COCKY". START CROSSING OUT AF AND WONDER WHY THEY GET GONE OVER NOW. KIDS THINK THEIR SOMETHING CAUSE THEY CAN BATTLE SOME OF HAWAII'S BEST. EVERYONE NEEDS TO GIVE RESPECT TO GET IT BACK.
PEACE was right when he said AF has to stoop lower, and battle those kids with quick throw-ups that would normally be below AF standards. It's lame and real ugly.
tags over throwys, throwys over pieces... thats beef. it's disrespectful on purpose.
p.s. those are areo's a's so... who's akur anyway???
talk about stooping to a lower level. i gotta go over lots of toys.......theres maybe a handful of guys in af, in hawaii, that are worth it. soker, maek, float, wobel....the rest are lucky to pull off anything half decent. the same might go for uskids, but you dont see us crying about it all over the internet.
your favorite rapper is proabably cocky as hell, but you still respect him and listen to his music, buy his new album. and also, since when does being a good person have anything to do with being a graff writer? With an expression as faceless as graffiti, I don't think it matters.
i think it is pretty obvious that AF's work has been suffering by having to stoop lower to battle clowns like DSK, etc. thats a fact, and its evident in the graffiti. DSK is now in everyone's mouth just from getting dissed so much. its a shame to know thats how these kids seek fame through capping an ill crew. and now AF gotta waste time going out and reclaiming spots that they already owned.
yo everyone out there in internet world! just take a breath right now and rethink why all you guys are in the game, not because of getting famous(maybe), not because to show you are better than someone else, or anything that I didn't write. If you are the opposite of what I wrote, then yur in it for the wrong reasons dawg. It's all about just doing yur thang and being able to produce the best work that yur capable of.
Graffiti "was" all about fun, now it's all about who's the best and shit. Everyone gots their own style and yes, some bite major time, but maybe they need more practice. Everyone has their idol like sport super stars. They wanna be jus like em, but realize can't cuz they don't want to be bitten of their style when they are looked up upon. Do you guys get it? Had to reread it to make sure it sounded like it did in my head.
dam...why we gotta hate.
peace to who reads this. no fight intended. jus truth.
i think all this beef is pretty pointless. people nobody has ever heard of going over AF or TE or whoever. why dont they just get better on their own until hey become respected artists in their own right? why go over a well established crew with tags you may be embarrassed by when youre older and possibly better. much respect to areo, soker, wobel, float asalt and all you guys with crazy ass skills (i also really dig skarz). further more, all these accusations of so and so bitin so and so is pointless too, youd be hard pressed to find a handful of truely original writers in hawaii, especially considering the strong LA influences present in hawaii at present. if you want to try and be original thats great but i dont see the problem in rockin a style thats clean and dope. im not really any body in the game myself, just voicing my opinion on how confrontational and judgemental have become nowadays. whatever happened to just enjoying sick art?
the thing is that the new comer kids.. 8 years old kine, there toy i mean its understandable.. but to come here and think that there the shit and that THEY should run shit is just mad... AF has been running before you even knew how to hold a pen. Kids come up and get all pissy because they see AF here and AF there and they get all nutz?!? wth-__-. Also, all the toys some how ALWAYS wanna get involved and go places they dont belong. They wanna act like they know so that people finally notices them . They try so hard to get noticed by top crews and when a crew like AF doesnt notice them because there acting dumb then they retaliate with there lil goon squad of lil kids.... and capping.. cappings been going on before we were even born. It didnt stop then and it wont stop now, im not saying lets all be peacefull lil people and make like all this shit is good but c'mon... it gets old after a while if you always see people that dont even know.. dissin your steeze. I say ups to AF.. some of the toys these days sey fuck AF cause they dont wanna be friends with them but they dont even know how chill some of the AF guys are. Also, up to te, uk.. there doing there own stuff and so should everybodie else. Bless.
hating AF gets you places nowadays. The top street crews have to be AF, TE, UK. theres a couple of people in each crew that deserve the right to do whatever they want on the street. but you still have to back up your crew. The only problem with this beef is that it is getting out of hand, and not staying on the wall only. keep it on the wall, show off what you got. AF,TE,UK all kill any other crew in Hawaii. keep killing.
Eh WORD! Thanks for the comment.
All you guys that be commenting on this situation, it's good right now, cuz nobody was shit talkin. That's how it should be.
It'll be cool to get on TE or AF, but with all this cappin and shit, I'll just stick with my crew TF for now since it's neutral and we got no beef with nobody...thankfully. no fight intended. Big ups to all the crews that be tryin to get up.
Also...keep the fights in/on the walls, not on the internet! Peace to all!
keep running September 24, 2007, 08:32 AM
^^ to much hate in there hearts? haha AF is the ones who think there the kings of everyone so they think have the right to diss/ shit talk who ever they want. UK TE DSK is giving there dumb asses a wake up call.
I THINK THIS SHIT IS FUCKIN FUNNY! AF NEEDS 3 WHOLE CREWS TO GIVE THEM A WAKE UP CALL? HAH! BIG UPS TO AF FOR KILLIN 3 CREWS ALL AT ONE TIME
tao, kis, kua.........theres a couple other weak crews that i cant think of that are pretty much af. all getting pretty well handled by a small group of uk's. its not even a TE battle, theres just some guys in uk that also write TE, basically. af is a joke. almost everyone on here jocking af, is af or an affiliated crew. what do you guys kill? i see whack toy bombs from spyr, clit suls, and the occasional decent piece or bomb from soker, float or maek. sale, bulk, months, yups, oops, tumy, also, buger, skarz, gene, etc, etc are all worthless. i dont see shit from af but a lotta talk. all your boys gave up cause they couldn't keep up, so you keep recruiting from the endless stream of toys. what a joke, sale just got punked again last night. all fags.
oera, your so full of shit and yourself its funny.
uk has NO good writers, even you're played out. after 11yrs of writing i hope im a hell of a lot better than your lame ass.
"so you keep recruiting from the endless stream of toys"
and what do you call putting down all of dsk and debo?? you just pulled your own card, dumbshit.
"sale just got punked again last night." you mean sale got falsed from his blindside while talking to people by fatty debo? thats real dope! you guys must be so proud of yourselves. especially you "mr.lets keep it to painting and not stupid fights and shit"... shit is so whack. not to mention the time debo and his boys pulled a gun on me... that was so rad yeah? that proves you guys are fucking graff kings! psshh... false smaller kids, mob people when they are alone, pull guns, suck at painting and dont even attempt to improve, spread rumors like girls, and you guys are running the graff game right?
iono dude, i think we'll stick to actually painting (despite what you say) and work on progressing at our art. thats how we roll when it comes our graff game. cuz shit, thats why i got into it in the first place, to have fun. not to go around being fucking retarded and content with being shitty.
this "beef" is such bullshit already.
if you really wanna prove which GRAFFITI crew is better, why doesnt each crew rock a battle production... everyone can judge for themselves and that'll be that.
cuz this shit is getting fucking stupid.
PREACH Aloha Fam PREACH! droppin science, i love that shit. i like that battle proddy idea. get this over with already so everybody can progress the art
oera, your a joke. your basically contridicting yourself with every pointless comment. you dont see shit from AF? think about all of UK's spots running, there all basically old AF spots that you guys dissed so your obviously seeing something.. i see NO orginal spots from u guys. the only UK's still putting in work is a endless stream of toys and i aint counting you or azer who's work has no progression since 95'. ill admit your pieces got some style but take a look at the rest of your crew...
and yes, this aint even a TE AF battle anymore. its just UK. i see the majoirty of the mature TE's weekly and weve squashed ours.
i dont blame you that you got this whole vision that UK is "killin us" when you got fairy tale stories from the rest of your crew that their "punking us". your crew has the wrong idea on how graffiti should be. youve all developed this fake gangster persona that u guys got from watching to much rap videos.
and as far as these DSK toys go. if UK is a joke, then DSk has their own comedy special on HBO. these kids use to jock us hard, and if their reason for hating on us is because were "cocky big headed assholes" then let it be. im sorry i cant reply to every single comment you leave me on myspace. im sorry i dont wanna meet up with you to go painting. im sorry i didnt have the time to give you kids some pointers on your pieces. im sorry i couldnt help you buy paint because you werent old enough. i hardly write to my own crew on myspace let alone write to someone i dont even know. and if thats why im a cocky and big headed then let it be. most of yall are in it for a minute, and it sucks i gotta stoop to your level(wich is pretty damn low). MAYBE one day, years from now youll be good at graffiti. but for now your just a BEGINNER. and for you to start beef with a well established crew in you hometown to gain some kinda of recognition or respect has only got one word.........TOY
this has been going back and forth for a while now, why can't you guys stop hating the crews? chill for a while, think that this shit is getting stupid. Every crew has something good and something bad. Some people view if the crew is dope enough like in their pieces, some people like them because they tag and bomb a lot. I personally like to view graffiti as art, but this shit has nothing to do with the subject. AF is pretty awesome, you have to hand this to them instead of hating on them. TE, UK, DSK is awesome in their own ways too, but you guys can't bitch about this shit over and over. You motherfuckers have to stop this shit.
and no oera i didnt change my name to avoid gettin capped. i will always be soker. my style speaks for itself and theres no hiding that. wether i write block, soker, tekue or reck you will always know its me. stop writing AF? my name is AF.
the work speaks for itself. i only came on here and started commenting last week. look at all the bullshit you guys wrote before that. you guys are up? on h3, thats about it. af spots? almost every spot done on this island was painted by asalt or myself first. you know that whether you admit it or not. and yeah, i got a lot of your spots now too. i got so many brand new spots i cant even count. my picture book is loaded.
and you, soker, were the one making threats and telling your little toy followers to tag my house and shit. you tried to act gangster, and you got punked too. that aint my style, i'm all about peace, but when you guys threaten me, and tag my house, then i think its funny, and justified, when you get beat down and punked. i cant control kids pulling guns or knives or whatever you claim happens when i'm not around, but you guys were the first to make gun threats. i hate guns. two of my best friends were killed with the aid of guns. i dont want anyone dead, or seriously injured because of this beef, not even you big bad block. i talked to you about this shit at indigo last time i saw you, i expressed to you that we should all get along on our little rock. that beef was pointless, that we're all connected in our little community. you get what you give dog.
and further, i dont even know dsk, nor do i recruit for uk. you got a longer list of toys, and members in general then we will ever have. i'd rather drop all the toys out of both af and uk and have a battle between the real heads, but thats just me.
the battle has gotten tiresome, but whatever, we're smoking you. this is my last word on any of this. hippie-burnout oner.
HOW MUCH JOCK DO I ITCH? ABOUT 62 CUTTYS BUCKING ABOUT MY CREW, GUYS DONT KNOW SHIT YOU SHOULD COME KICK IT AND SEE IF YOU CAN HANG WITH US VETS NAME PLACE TIME
throw a wig on and go sell your ass on hotel st. bitch better have my money fuck yall and goodnight
there are no more prostitutes on hotel street.. havent been for many moons. only The bus is allowed on that street. merchant and bethel streets however do deliver. ka`iulani also but you need more money there.
guns suck dog! graffiti shud never lead to gun violence c'mon its some paint on sum walls dus it really matter if someone happened to go over the edge of your piece dus it really matter? and if you have a problem with it confront the person and make a deal and settle it out instead of making a rivalry against each other i personally cannot hold a grudge thats y im surprised they r keepin a grudge between eachother for so long man i see busu going over tonc on the highway and then i see this pic and i think is it ever going to end? well whatever its none of my business.i just wish they would squash the beef.i love graffiti it is so much fun and thats all it should be is fun UNLESS u actually make a job of it like sein for instance he is the graphic designer for system media he is making something out of his hobby.UK TE AF they are all really good and its sux to think that if you were to join any of the crews {if you were offered} u wud be in a rivalry no matter what it sux.big ups to soker and branches n dem n AF and big ups to areo n busu n dem in UK and TE. Love don't Hate.
im mothafukin sick of these bitches talkin shit, sick of hearing from toys callin us toys i mean who the fuck are u saying we have too much hate and no respect to the experience ones. Bitch i was humble about this fukin battle from wen DSK got in the picture i showed tons of respect to soker i even sent him a message sayin that i have no beef wit him and float. Everything was cool for weeks until he messages me complainin how me and trade were dissin his crew linin his boys clit and oops out threatnin me and shit sayin i better have a gun on me nigga i dont play that shit the bitch even tried to set me and trade up by gettin our closes friends to set us up by givin him info on us. How fukin low can u get dawg. thats wen i lost all the respect for u and ur boys after realizing how low u guys are,AND for u toy bitches still on AF cocks u better watch it cuz it seems like AF's all cool and shit to u but once u get down wit the wrong people u dont even know how much of a 2face these guys are.
This shits wacked out
peace and Much respect for the peeps who understand
-3dots
never heard about anything you said but if its true then yeah, i guess thats kinda low... but since you crossed af in the first place, you should expect that kinda heat. plain and simple. and i dont believe ALL the af heads are "2face." in fact, the ones i know are maaaad cool. even the uk te cats. maaaad cool. i dont think you can judge a crew with more than 20+ writers in by one single guy... im sure if we all had no beef and met each other, we'd all get along. we all like the same shit. to most of us, graf is how we live; not just some shit we do. this is silly. squash the beef. im sure we'd all have better lives, even if were not in the beef.
We are monitoring this website for illegal activity, any and all individuals involved with further acts of criminal property damage will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The Crime Reduction Unit is aware of your vandalism and we refuse to have graffiti in our communities.
hahaha. thats hilarious. "The Crime Reduction Unit" is aware of acts of vandalism! Watch out yo those guys are smart. How the hell could they know that people are writing graffiti everywhere? mind boggling. Thats some CSI shit right thurre.
Good luck CSI! You go out there and find those spots!! the im sure the artists will still be there waiting for you.......Its not like you catch many guys any ways. its usually because the person is out so much that you happen to run into them or its a stupid kid that fucked up and got caught.
As far as this beef going on its just human nature. Someone said this or did that and now its blown up. Theres been beef since the beginning and will be forever.Toys will always give better writers shit because they're either jealous or are just to lazy to put in the time to get good.
soker was right up there. and a few other guys were too. i hate seeing af throwing up shit that's half as good as most of the older other stuff they've done. af has proven over and over they are some of the sickest and most up writers in town, it's retarded for anyone, especially super toys like dsk and the new uk, to think they can get up more and better than af, it's been proven noone can. and fuck that CRU shit. this site is freedom of speech in action you idiot! noones breaking the law here, go get a real job!
i cant even believe words like "seek" and "clit" are in the same sentence. these Dick Sucking Kids is getting too much credit. this is just what those dsk kids wanted by dissing the real writers
skarz vs disko wtf is that skarz is a fukin msk look up to biter that doesnt count for shit it should be
seek vs oops = seek
disko vs clit= disko
trade vs spyr = trade
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA, hey yall. check out what the dude above me just wrote!!:
"skarz vs disko wtf is that skarz is a fukin msk look up to biter that doesnt count for shit it should be
seek vs oops = seek
disko vs clit= disko
trade vs spyr = trade"
HAHHA. im seriously getting a good laugh. furthermore, "hold up bitch" is forgetting about Soker, Phyto, and countless others. and trade is too small to even reach the ladder of a freeway sign. dsk toys and AF writers shouldnt be uttered in the same breath. step off. and i dont even write, its just obvious shit. stating the facts.
it's good phyto isn't in this, he'd be wasting his time
soker VS oera=soker
soker fucking kills and oera doesn't stand a chance,
don't know who came up with this, what a toy, stickng up for him
fuck dat Totally Against Graffiti shit! what da fuck you gon do to all these fucken artists? looking at fucken pictures and talkin about beef. you tryna get info or somethin? cuz you dont even know what the fucks going on. get off our dicks and get off this site.
the only main reason that everyone hates af is cause of clit yall should boot him out already man if he didnt step to goat n his homiez notin would have started dsk wouldnt be here te would have still be rockin!some of tha mean af piecez would have been still standing shit i would have still have respek to af butt now i only respek ev and dc4 in tha h.i fuk who tha fuk would be stupid enough to call out dc4!nigga gett a life and dubbz stop repersenting only af man start putting some new crew we tired of all these af and te beefz!
every crew up here has skilled writers n shit. were all in gaff for the same reason, to make a name for ourselfs and to dissrespect authoirty. wer basically fighting the government. they crack down on some of us hard....but we crack down on each other harder.....just my opinion, if a beef needs to happen, then a beef needs to happen but if its uncessary...why have it?
your rite UK= a bunch of angry drunks who have there bitch deboto pussy slap people and pretend they can run it. when in fact they cannot. blinsiding is for clown-cunts who couldnt ramble if the stepped correct. there work speaks for itsef. i mean, rize has a nice style and oeras got funk and colors and shit but it takes more than that to make a crew. why does DSK keep pretending to be a part of anything? funny.
AF's list of toys never stops growing everso larger. cmmon float, is that really what you guys need?
i just realized that TUMS is smut backwords.
eww.
this is whats up. DC4 hardly even scratched the surface of hawaii. nothing from DC4 since 2000 has ever really gained street cred. stick to legals, youre really better off. EV does what they do, but theyre better off being gutter rats. Like TE is useless without Asalt, the same goes for EV without Mean. legal eagles. they've been in it too long to get wrapped up in it now with actual vandalism. TE had its hay day, and its come and gone. let the dead dog lay. AF over the past few years has become no more then a fashion trend for in it for a minute writers. you actually had to have style to get in, now all you need is to cup the next mans balls, and youre crew. old timers talking shit, while the newcomers handle it. its pathetic. no one is stepping up their game, and the standards are at an all time low. it just shows toys that their scrag throw ups and half ass fillers own up to their "role models" graffiti, and hopefully one day, if they draw nice enough, they can hang with a "real" bunch of assholes. toys stay on the jock, and writers keep being full of themselves. If any of this offends you, good.
Go fuck yourself.
DC4= almost always doing legals with no street cred.
EV= guys who THINK they have street cred.
TE= nothing with out asalt and just going around tagging on things.
UK= a shitty version of TE
AF= recruiting anyone these days. not getting up like they use to.
DSK= kids who hate on people who dont respond to them on myspace.
ATK= its a shame to see what they have become. nobodys.
i love everything i see on walls, regardless of crew or set. paint the city. over the beef. and the hating. let the writers write, and the haters hate. progress the status of hawaii graffiti; all this anymosity is bringing it down.
not one to join in on kiddie games, but these are pretty hillarious comments. besides the crews on that list above, who else are these great white hypes that have more clout then these fools in hawaii? i mean it's entertaining to read all this bullshit, no offense taken but is that for real or is it some old timer bored on the net? it has to be someone i know? or have the youngens finally evolved into original gangsters? nah, gotta be someone with some history. funny shit homie, funny shit.
shut the f**k up mean! i've been writing since 2004. you ain't done anything for hawaii. i made a mop and smashed all 100 something miles of hawaii. i kinged this rock son. i live the graffiti life while you sit with your big head drinking a heineken on the beach. i've hit the same spot that atak already did ten times over. i'm a pioneer. maybe my name will fade in a couple years but i'm badass now. go join a retirement home where the legal eagles roam.
What other crew is there that wasn't on the hate list? MEAN hit it on the spot and think it's someone we all know. Probably bitter because no body pay attention to him. My guess is that he threw his own crew in the list to throw us off.
its all about what style you like and who you kno. theres not really nobody good anymore. theres always haters and will always be haters. who cares, its all about your opinion.
DSK. Why you tryin to front like you can get up to Af's level.
WE ALL know AF will roast you kids. And on AF's part, I know you shouldn't let these punk toy ass KIDS dis you guys, but this is ridiculous.
You guys ain't got anything to prove.
Everyone knows you og's are better than that.
Why bother?
ppl dont take thiz personal!ev te af yall should step up and put hawaii on the map yall seen one crapass mainland guy come down and made an burner
on the freeway man he made hawaii grafferz look like toyz yall should stop wasting ur time and step up shit and dc4 if yall wanna talk put ur shit on the streetz!af yall should fuken stop being cocky n go back to the 04,05 af and ev gett outta the fuken ditches and galleryz and start putting hawaii on the fuken map te yall repersent the old skool te all drunk dem shit put um to good use and phyto gett up more we know you could do um and all dsk save your talent ur time iz comeing!dubz keep up the go0d work!
that's a good observation lotus! just way too much hate.
There's some good people on TE (ex. ASALT) nigga went all the way to NY to battle for his name. SHIT...that's a lot of heart man. (correct me if I'm wrong. That's what I heard.)
There's also good people on AF (ex. FLOAT) he has his own style from the others on AF.
To each his own...style wise.
When I started back in 04-05, there wasn't as many writers out in Hawaii, except for those who were in the game already. In my opinion, I think that when Marc Ecko's game came out that's when the boom of writers started (unless you didn't know about it and just started because you wanted to). I think that it made it look easy to get get up and stuff related to it. What I'm tryna say is do it for the love, not to do it because of some retarded influence. Also respect. That's another thing.
This is all an opinion so don't get offended okay.
peace to all
(Baraney) DC4= almost always doing legals with no street cred.
(Rubble) DC4= Ozwego Destro n Koak killed Hawaii. Might do alot of legales but dey paint betta den mos of us. com to dithces on my side n u find der shit. da street cred is der especially with da new guys. I tink Newkon would kill if he wasnt a Leagle Eagle.
lol I saw NEWKON kick dis guys ass at sea life park in one full contak fight befo.
(Baraney) EV= guys who THINK they have street cred.
(Rubble) EV= Look Mean Ohana wit more street cred. den needed. der crew got members runnin shit befo u cud wipe your own ass, and still in the game. MEAN and QUEST could crush anyone.
(Baraney) TE= nothing with out asalt and just going around tagging on things.
(Rubble) TE= Held it down in Hawaii for a long time, neva see anyting now Asalts gone.
(Barney) UK= a shitty version of TE
(Rubble) UK= Got dope guys. Rise, Meat Head dem. shitty because da only reason why UK is known is because DEBO likes to false crack people n runs wit his body guards. Leave the gun n your boys home, step to me face to face and see what happens.
(Barney) AF= recruiting anyone these days. not getting up like they use to.
(Rubble) AF= Holds it down. Most ups in Hawaii. Float, Soker, Phyto, the list is endless. AF is da best crew. Dey shouldn't waste der time on da shitty crews.
(Barney) DSK= kids who hate on people who dont respond to them on myspace.
(Rubble) DSK= Dey looking up to da wrong guys. Dey tink dey tuff. Some of dem is pretty good for toys.
(Barney) ATK= its a shame to see what they have become. nobodys.
(Rubble) ATK= Dey use to be good. I neva no dey still had ATK
battle already. all shuld pair off and battle until you can truly say you or ur crew is da bess.brackit action. da ones dat truly hold down da 808 no one like step to dem and battle. just talk like dey can beat dem. alllll us foos on here got sumting from da heads in hawaii. style.tecknic.colorz.atitude.whatevas.
yuo gais shud post up the pictures hea!! pice battle af wud win! but te wud kill em on the streets! dc4 ev is gud but dey jus paint nice kine in safe spots. fawk da police! go paint!
aiyo 3dots.:...some dummy wrote under my name. Guess he wants more beef. I also think it's cool to hear what others have to say even if it starts beef, but not what he said though.
marco eck...i started writing in books first then proceeded to the streets.
if you don't think this is the real skope, then it's all g, but if someone keeps writing bullshit comments under my name then it ain't me. That's not how I roll dawg. I have more respect than this dude writing under my name.
peace to the both of you and everyone in this retarded beef.
never heard about anything you said but if its true then yeah, i guess thats kinda low... but since you crossed af in the first place, you should expect that kinda heat. plain and simple. and i dont believe ALL the af heads are "2face." in fact, the ones i know are maaaad cool. even the uk te cats. maaaad cool. i dont think you can judge a crew with more than 20+ writers in by one single guy... im sure if we all had no beef and met each other, we'd all get along. we all like the same shit. to most of us, graf is how we live; not just some shit we do. this is silly. squash the beef. im sure we'd all have better lives, even if were not in the beef.
brah i think they should squash thiz beef already man!i meet spyr the other day nigga cool as fuk and i know goat man he iz kool as fuk to but all thiz beef iz doin iz messing al these good pieces!i gotta say if i was float and most of my spotz got tooken i would wanna take um back!and young onez stop with tha beef!thatz just wat i think if you dont like it fuk off!
peace *iliss*
what i'd really like to know is how THE BEEF got started. it probably was something small that blew up, and now writers are getting knocked up cause they are in some cru. do the new cats in af, uk, etc... even know what theyr fighting about, or fighting for? if u do, then gud, but if ur just capping cus everyone else is doin it, then ur a toy. get the facts.. but im just a toy, so dont nobody needs to coment me saying i am..
"nuff heard from, both sides, now take it to the streets" -Dubside
barney October 06, 2007, 11:37 PM
DC4= almost always doing legals with no street cred.
EV= guys who THINK they have street cred.
TE= nothing with out asalt and just going around tagging on things.
UK= a shitty version of TE
AF= recruiting anyone these days. not getting up like they use to.
DSK= kids who hate on people who dont respond to them on myspace.
ATK= its a shame to see what they have become. nobodys.
the truth is theres always gonna be dicks out there, that are better than you and think there the shit koz they got the rep and the skill . just think not everybody picks up a spray can and right there developes a style. It takes months even years for a writer to develope his own style. but you gotta give these kids props; shophmores that probably started in 7th or 8th grade in a beef with guys that have been writting for 6 or 7 years and should have 3 times the talent they do . And here other writers are showing all this hate, what the fuck man. The only kid i can think of that was blowing it up when he was 14 was asalt, he was better than half the guys in af now. he kinged hawaii with an iron fist, trade and disko have mad talent and it is inevitable that he will be some of the best in hawaii so give respect
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of the most common a's there is.
dont be mad because they dont want to paint with you
I know Tumy and Booger aka Peter aka B4. they both dope. no bragging intended though.
i like the way u talk bradda
u sound like a smart dude
ALL AF, TE, UK, used to be the shits but now all of them are all toyed out no disrepects tho
peace
PEACE was right when he said AF has to stoop lower, and battle those kids with quick throw-ups that would normally be below AF standards. It's lame and real ugly.
tags over throwys, throwys over pieces... thats beef. it's disrespectful on purpose.
p.s. those are areo's a's so... who's akur anyway???
Graffiti "was" all about fun, now it's all about who's the best and shit. Everyone gots their own style and yes, some bite major time, but maybe they need more practice. Everyone has their idol like sport super stars. They wanna be jus like em, but realize can't cuz they don't want to be bitten of their style when they are looked up upon. Do you guys get it? Had to reread it to make sure it sounded like it did in my head.
dam...why we gotta hate.
peace to who reads this. no fight intended. jus truth.
-P
All you guys that be commenting on this situation, it's good right now, cuz nobody was shit talkin. That's how it should be.
It'll be cool to get on TE or AF, but with all this cappin and shit, I'll just stick with my crew TF for now since it's neutral and we got no beef with nobody...thankfully. no fight intended. Big ups to all the crews that be tryin to get up.
Also...keep the fights in/on the walls, not on the internet! Peace to all!
^^ to much hate in there hearts? haha AF is the ones who think there the kings of everyone so they think have the right to diss/ shit talk who ever they want. UK TE DSK is giving there dumb asses a wake up call.
I THINK THIS SHIT IS FUCKIN FUNNY! AF NEEDS 3 WHOLE CREWS TO GIVE THEM A WAKE UP CALL? HAH! BIG UPS TO AF FOR KILLIN 3 CREWS ALL AT ONE TIME
chaddap already.
tao, kis, kua.........theres a couple other weak crews that i cant think of that are pretty much af. all getting pretty well handled by a small group of uk's. its not even a TE battle, theres just some guys in uk that also write TE, basically. af is a joke. almost everyone on here jocking af, is af or an affiliated crew. what do you guys kill? i see whack toy bombs from spyr, clit suls, and the occasional decent piece or bomb from soker, float or maek. sale, bulk, months, yups, oops, tumy, also, buger, skarz, gene, etc, etc are all worthless. i dont see shit from af but a lotta talk. all your boys gave up cause they couldn't keep up, so you keep recruiting from the endless stream of toys. what a joke, sale just got punked again last night. all fags.
if you want to go for the stretch and name all the crews that are some how affiliated with main crews... uk has a long list of no-namers.
bullshit goes back and forth. just drop it already.
Crazy Shit!
uk has NO good writers, even you're played out. after 11yrs of writing i hope im a hell of a lot better than your lame ass.
"so you keep recruiting from the endless stream of toys"
and what do you call putting down all of dsk and debo?? you just pulled your own card, dumbshit.
"sale just got punked again last night." you mean sale got falsed from his blindside while talking to people by fatty debo? thats real dope! you guys must be so proud of yourselves. especially you "mr.lets keep it to painting and not stupid fights and shit"... shit is so whack. not to mention the time debo and his boys pulled a gun on me... that was so rad yeah? that proves you guys are fucking graff kings! psshh... false smaller kids, mob people when they are alone, pull guns, suck at painting and dont even attempt to improve, spread rumors like girls, and you guys are running the graff game right?
iono dude, i think we'll stick to actually painting (despite what you say) and work on progressing at our art. thats how we roll when it comes our graff game. cuz shit, thats why i got into it in the first place, to have fun. not to go around being fucking retarded and content with being shitty.
this "beef" is such bullshit already.
if you really wanna prove which GRAFFITI crew is better, why doesnt each crew rock a battle production... everyone can judge for themselves and that'll be that.
cuz this shit is getting fucking stupid.
and yes, this aint even a TE AF battle anymore. its just UK. i see the majoirty of the mature TE's weekly and weve squashed ours.
i dont blame you that you got this whole vision that UK is "killin us" when you got fairy tale stories from the rest of your crew that their "punking us". your crew has the wrong idea on how graffiti should be. youve all developed this fake gangster persona that u guys got from watching to much rap videos.
and as far as these DSK toys go. if UK is a joke, then DSk has their own comedy special on HBO. these kids use to jock us hard, and if their reason for hating on us is because were "cocky big headed assholes" then let it be. im sorry i cant reply to every single comment you leave me on myspace. im sorry i dont wanna meet up with you to go painting. im sorry i didnt have the time to give you kids some pointers on your pieces. im sorry i couldnt help you buy paint because you werent old enough. i hardly write to my own crew on myspace let alone write to someone i dont even know. and if thats why im a cocky and big headed then let it be. most of yall are in it for a minute, and it sucks i gotta stoop to your level(wich is pretty damn low). MAYBE one day, years from now youll be good at graffiti. but for now your just a BEGINNER. and for you to start beef with a well established crew in you hometown to gain some kinda of recognition or respect has only got one word.........TOY
and you, soker, were the one making threats and telling your little toy followers to tag my house and shit. you tried to act gangster, and you got punked too. that aint my style, i'm all about peace, but when you guys threaten me, and tag my house, then i think its funny, and justified, when you get beat down and punked. i cant control kids pulling guns or knives or whatever you claim happens when i'm not around, but you guys were the first to make gun threats. i hate guns. two of my best friends were killed with the aid of guns. i dont want anyone dead, or seriously injured because of this beef, not even you big bad block. i talked to you about this shit at indigo last time i saw you, i expressed to you that we should all get along on our little rock. that beef was pointless, that we're all connected in our little community. you get what you give dog.
and further, i dont even know dsk, nor do i recruit for uk. you got a longer list of toys, and members in general then we will ever have. i'd rather drop all the toys out of both af and uk and have a battle between the real heads, but thats just me.
the battle has gotten tiresome, but whatever, we're smoking you. this is my last word on any of this. hippie-burnout oner.
keep lying to yourself and stroking your own ego.
and you wont have a proddy battle cause you know when it comes down to it whats gonna happen.
AF wins.
throw a wig on and go sell your ass on hotel st. bitch better have my money fuck yall and goodnight
This shits wacked out
peace and Much respect for the peeps who understand
-3dots
As far as this beef going on its just human nature. Someone said this or did that and now its blown up. Theres been beef since the beginning and will be forever.Toys will always give better writers shit because they're either jealous or are just to lazy to put in the time to get good.
busu vs. float = float
odbal vs. oops = odbal
debo vs. AF's worst toy = AF's worst toy
thats the truth folks!
skarz vs disko= skarz
seek vs clit= clit
trade vs. tumms = tumms
^ yeah couldn't have said it better. hit it right on the money. hardly even worth discussing becuase its obvious who the dope crews are.
seek vs oops = seek
disko vs clit= disko
trade vs spyr = trade
"skarz vs disko wtf is that skarz is a fukin msk look up to biter that doesnt count for shit it should be
seek vs oops = seek
disko vs clit= disko
trade vs spyr = trade"
HAHHA. im seriously getting a good laugh. furthermore, "hold up bitch" is forgetting about Soker, Phyto, and countless others. and trade is too small to even reach the ladder of a freeway sign. dsk toys and AF writers shouldnt be uttered in the same breath. step off. and i dont even write, its just obvious shit. stating the facts.
soker VS oera=soker
soker fucking kills and oera doesn't stand a chance,
don't know who came up with this, what a toy, stickng up for him
AF=alot of asian nerd swho took art when they was like 12 year sold
UK=a buncha guys that get paint and just skrew on a cap an say their shits tight
TE=worhless without asalt
DSK= potentially good writers that r gonna get shot at the age of 16
true true..but for the UK parts a lil off homey
AF's list of toys never stops growing everso larger. cmmon float, is that really what you guys need?
i just realized that TUMS is smut backwords.
eww.
Go fuck yourself.
EV= guys who THINK they have street cred.
TE= nothing with out asalt and just going around tagging on things.
UK= a shitty version of TE
AF= recruiting anyone these days. not getting up like they use to.
DSK= kids who hate on people who dont respond to them on myspace.
ATK= its a shame to see what they have become. nobodys.
chaddap befo your jaw gets broken
barney too...
ezay hawaiians
but i kinna agree
so much craziness. damn.
WE ALL know AF will roast you kids. And on AF's part, I know you shouldn't let these punk toy ass KIDS dis you guys, but this is ridiculous.
You guys ain't got anything to prove.
Everyone knows you og's are better than that.
Why bother?
on the freeway man he made hawaii grafferz look like toyz yall should stop wasting ur time and step up shit and dc4 if yall wanna talk put ur shit on the streetz!af yall should fuken stop being cocky n go back to the 04,05 af and ev gett outta the fuken ditches and galleryz and start putting hawaii on the fuken map te yall repersent the old skool te all drunk dem shit put um to good use and phyto gett up more we know you could do um and all dsk save your talent ur time iz comeing!dubz keep up the go0d work!
There's some good people on TE (ex. ASALT) nigga went all the way to NY to battle for his name. SHIT...that's a lot of heart man. (correct me if I'm wrong. That's what I heard.)
There's also good people on AF (ex. FLOAT) he has his own style from the others on AF.
To each his own...style wise.
When I started back in 04-05, there wasn't as many writers out in Hawaii, except for those who were in the game already. In my opinion, I think that when Marc Ecko's game came out that's when the boom of writers started (unless you didn't know about it and just started because you wanted to). I think that it made it look easy to get get up and stuff related to it. What I'm tryna say is do it for the love, not to do it because of some retarded influence. Also respect. That's another thing.
This is all an opinion so don't get offended okay.
peace to all
you dont even get up
never heard of u
(Rubble) DC4= Ozwego Destro n Koak killed Hawaii. Might do alot of legales but dey paint betta den mos of us. com to dithces on my side n u find der shit. da street cred is der especially with da new guys. I tink Newkon would kill if he wasnt a Leagle Eagle.
lol I saw NEWKON kick dis guys ass at sea life park in one full contak fight befo.
(Baraney) EV= guys who THINK they have street cred.
(Rubble) EV= Look Mean Ohana wit more street cred. den needed. der crew got members runnin shit befo u cud wipe your own ass, and still in the game. MEAN and QUEST could crush anyone.
(Baraney) TE= nothing with out asalt and just going around tagging on things.
(Rubble) TE= Held it down in Hawaii for a long time, neva see anyting now Asalts gone.
(Barney) UK= a shitty version of TE
(Rubble) UK= Got dope guys. Rise, Meat Head dem. shitty because da only reason why UK is known is because DEBO likes to false crack people n runs wit his body guards. Leave the gun n your boys home, step to me face to face and see what happens.
(Barney) AF= recruiting anyone these days. not getting up like they use to.
(Rubble) AF= Holds it down. Most ups in Hawaii. Float, Soker, Phyto, the list is endless. AF is da best crew. Dey shouldn't waste der time on da shitty crews.
(Barney) DSK= kids who hate on people who dont respond to them on myspace.
(Rubble) DSK= Dey looking up to da wrong guys. Dey tink dey tuff. Some of dem is pretty good for toys.
(Barney) ATK= its a shame to see what they have become. nobodys.
(Rubble) ATK= Dey use to be good. I neva no dey still had ATK
you dont even get up
never heard of u
- hu was that too??...
marco eck...i started writing in books first then proceeded to the streets.
if you don't think this is the real skope, then it's all g, but if someone keeps writing bullshit comments under my name then it ain't me. That's not how I roll dawg. I have more respect than this dude writing under my name.
peace to the both of you and everyone in this retarded beef.
peace
As far as I know they all rock the Legal spots too.
I AGREE WITH THIS DUDE!!
and yea the dude hu wrote that paragraph above me seems alot cooler than the other AF cats
although i never seen you anywhere. where do you hit so i can see em?
see everyone's cool... until one mouth fuks everything up.
"DISKO"
mi vida loca
:}
peace *iliss*
"nuff heard from, both sides, now take it to the streets" -Dubside
barney October 06, 2007, 11:37 PM
DC4= almost always doing legals with no street cred.
EV= guys who THINK they have street cred.
TE= nothing with out asalt and just going around tagging on things.
UK= a shitty version of TE
AF= recruiting anyone these days. not getting up like they use to.
DSK= kids who hate on people who dont respond to them on myspace.
ATK= its a shame to see what they have become. nobodys.
TE = THEY CHILL WITH ASALT, SO THEY MUST BE COOL
UK = AFFILATION WITH TE SO, ^^^^^
DSK = KIDS THAT SMOKED DUSK AND BEEN INSANE SINCE
OTHER CREWS = NOT AFFILATED
my 2cent, i dont write but i know theses guys
ok
its a frickin roller
capped
by 3 throwies
then capped again by 3 more throwies
i mean come on
disko vs clit=disko
trade vs spyer=trade
asalt vs soker=asalt