Henry Moore? Matisse?


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Fizgig September 16, 2018, 09:13 PM
Henry Moore, Reclining Figure (Maquette for Elmwood Figure) .... If you own it, be sure to authenticate it if you suspect it's an original because there are a lot of [high quality] reproductions out there for this piece -- not that they're entirely cheap either ;)
Creeksong September 17, 2018, 02:28 AM
Thanks Fizgig. It's at my mom's. I doubt that it's an original, although I think it is cast in bronze, because it's heavy.
Fizgig September 17, 2018, 04:13 AM
The patina on it is right for bronze, too..... The weight might also have to do with the apparent marble base. Did ya know one of these -- almost exactly, in fact -- sold at auction just recently for $300? Pretty crazy ... It was a replica... Usually known replicas of artwork are worth next-to-nothing. Go figure!
Creeksong September 17, 2018, 06:35 AM
Henry Moore...
$300 doesn't seem like a lot for a replica?
Fizgig September 17, 2018, 09:04 AM
It wouldn't be, no..... If it weren't for the fact that art replicas are usually worth very little -- especially when they're replicas of comparably sized pieces. But, then, the art world is an odd one in general ;) One kinda has to account for that, too ;)
Sonja September 17, 2018, 02:30 PM
Fizgig is quite right. The market with decorative sculpture and authorised limited casts according to numbers and then all the replica and merchandize knick-knack where the thing is the theme from later times especially if the original is old enough and the high original price was not created by licences the artists family or a company they worked for has a right to, and it is a cultural still well known object is often totally crazy.

Something made in series of later casts can have a market worth of barely a pitance above the material worth in resale, some by far less than it's former new price but still bring a nice little sum for being carefully made, decorative and popular, if it was a prop in a classic movie or once gracing the study or bedroom of a very famous person and auctioned off with proof, or it was an internationally aclaimed fine art museum making a few numbered replicas to bid on for some specific fundraiser event, or if it is from a edition part of which got lost before ever selling, what ever -- the theoretic market value might go up considerably again from any proven stories like that.... a quite similar looking piece from the same material may be worth less than the other one, or prices may fall generally when thhere is a crisis and many people at once flood the maket with stuff standing around at home to get liquidity back.
There is a TV show here where people bring old unwanted collectables and other antique stuff for judging by an expert and selling off to a panel of antique sellers allowed to bid without having heared the expert. Considerations like this is often a big topic there.

Then again... especially with Henry Moore some really weird and sort of funny story happened that might interest you, where especially brazen thives stole a really huge original bronce with heavy equipment in a sculpture park in England and sold it most likely for the scrap metal worth.
Then in Berlin the Bundeskriminalamt (national police headquarters, that is) commisioned some artwork for their office yard and some still alive artist named Fritz Balthaus won the competition with a concept of a sculpture from the exact amount of rectangular norm bronce bars into the vague outline of the original to comemorate the crime and have a discussion on the artworks market worth, that was like 4,4 Million Euro versus the mere metal maket worth of barely 2000 Euro at the scrapyard that was probaply already enough for the naughty conartists that could not possibly resell it as art.....
And now we can wonder what that art by Fritz Balthaus will be worth once he is gone, I guess -- LOL

There is no english website I can find on "Pure Moore" but here is the german one of the sculptor with a pic of the derivative art:
http://www.balthaus.org/de/bka.html

Creeksong September 18, 2018, 03:39 AM
Gee Sonja. Thank you very much for taking the time to write such a complete comment! Some of our 23 family seem to be experts on just about everything!
Sonja September 18, 2018, 12:17 PM
The experts are those folks on afternoon TV, I just sometimes watch "Bares fuer Rares"(means cash for rarities) at the side. If it would help a lot with selling anything outside their show I am not really sure, this is claiming to be an educational formate but I guess the main viewer market is about people at home wanting to leer at others possessions and see how the success in the interaction with professional traders, and the later just trying to give their own ilk a good name by comming off always so charming and fair grease runs out of the TV. At least it is a bit more entertaining than the 500th rerun of Colombo or Murder she Wrote and I dont think the experts would lie about value of things.
One really learns a lot at the shows, often really crazy things, far off the real life that makes the antiques antique at all.
I think at you that experts from the show would faint dead anyway, for example how you dine with a fork from some painted plate and have fun with the design and the food instead of hanging it somewhere without direkt sunlight and dusting it carefully with a very soft cloth so you best need never to expose that to water and detergent. They seem all that kind of people, so you best beware of real antique experts. ;o)
Creeksong September 18, 2018, 05:26 PM
Lonely people will do anything for company...
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